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Игорь Шевченко (2003-01-24 12:14) [0]

Code Together

(sing to the tune of Come Together)

you got: no requirements
you got: no schedules
you got: pair programmers
you got: lots of pepsi
you got: goal donors tellin you stories
one thing i can tell you is you can"t code in threes
code together
right now
with xp

you got: ree-factoring
you got no documentation
you got: cases of pepsi
you got index cards up to your knees
go ahead and change that cause you know change is free
code together
right now
with xp

http://www.bad-managers.com/Features/xp/extremers.shtml

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Mike B. (2003-01-24 12:24) [1]

Размер не подходит

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Maximator Vetera (2003-01-24 12:27) [2]

We are the champions!

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Игорь Шевченко (2003-01-24 13:01) [3]

XP is bad in practice because it is bad in theory.

In this respect it is just like communism: communism is not a good ideal
that happens not to work in practice; it fails in practice precisely because
it is a vicious ideal. And that ideal, in part, is that everyone should be
equal and interchangable. No one is better than anyone else, regardless of
what they have accomplished, and therefore, no one deserves more than the
poorest, laziest bum has. "From each according to his ability, to each
according to his need".

Some have blamed communism"s failure on the corrupt nature of most men,
something that would work if people were only moral. This argument only
highlights the corruption of communism. It is a crude ad hominem that anyone
with any self-esteem would be insulted by; it is the device of a craven,
defeated worm.

The XP ideal is, interestingly, similar to communism"s: its egalitarian
slant runs throughout its methodology, from the way teams are organized with
no one in charge of anything, to how they must slavishly work in pairs, to
its culture of disdain for architecture and architects. All of this amounts
to a rejection of the economic principle of division of labor, a return to a
primitive mode of production, that interestingly again, was championed by
communism.

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Mike B. (2003-01-24 13:19) [4]

Как сказал один дядька - каждому проекту своя методология.
И как сказал еще один - марксизм не догма, а руководство к действию :-)

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Delirium^.Tremens (2003-01-24 13:28) [5]

И какая связь у коммунистов с моим Athlon XP?
:-)

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vuk (2003-01-24 13:31) [6]

Глючит? :o)

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Delirium^.Tremens (2003-01-24 13:33) [7]

vuk © (24.01.03 13:31)
Только если брать в Ф..зе :-)

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vuk (2003-01-24 13:34) [8]

Хотя нет, скорее греется. А те тоже видать перегрелись, вот и красные.

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vuk (2003-01-24 13:38) [9]

to Игорь Шевченко:
Мне вот это понравилось:

The Project

(sing to the tune of The Wall by Pink Floyd)

We don"t need no documentation
We don"t need source code control
We don"t need no stinkin" comments
No lonely coder at one console

All in all we just need
Projects that are small

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Mike B. (2003-01-24 13:42) [10]

> Delirium^.Tremens © (24.01.03 13:28)
Зря смеешься, все очень серьезно. Выкидывай пока рука Москвы до тебя не дотянулась

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Delirium^.Tremens (2003-01-24 13:47) [11]

Mike B. © (24.01.03 13:42)

Athlon на пентюха сменить?
Да лучше сдохнуть..
Свой винт Ф..зе подарить
И моник грохнуть...

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Mike B. (2003-01-24 13:52) [12]

> Delirium^.Tremens © (24.01.03 13:47)
Пентюх ничем не лучше :(
Он с Пентагоном связан, как ты, наверное догадываешься

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Игорь Шевченко (2003-01-24 15:08) [13]

vuk © (24.01.03 13:38)

Мне на мотив Imagine:

Imagine there"s no requirements. It"s easy if you try
Just a bunch of coders, reachin for the sky
Imagine all the people, coding for today

Imagine there"s no schedules. It isn"t hard to do
No silly project deadlines, no one supervising you
Imagine all the people, coding hand in hand

You may say I"m an extremer but I"m not the only one
I hope someday you"ll join us and make coding lots more fun.

Imagine oral documentation. I wonder if you can
No need for UML diagrams. Just words passed, man to man
Imagine just refactoring, playing in the sand

You may say I"m an extremer, but I"m not the only one
I hope someday you"ll join us and make coding lots more fun.

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Mike B. (2003-01-24 15:18) [14]

Я как то читал про одного мужика, кажется из Австралии, который записывает диски с песнями про свои любимые компы фирмы эппл в стиле рок :).

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Delirium^.Tremens (2003-01-24 15:23) [15]

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Mike B. (2003-01-24 15:27) [16]

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Игорь Шевченко (2003-01-24 15:57) [17]

А песню в стиле полу-рок про Windows 95 не слышали ?
Weird Al Y.... (Дальше не помню). Так и называется: Windows 95.

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